Steve DeGaetano wrote:
Creative FX wrote:
Was it me, or did they say they were going to bring back the bubble top?
It was you.
The monorails as they exist are too large to sport a bubble top, and avoid hitting overhead monorail beams.
Like it or not, the concept art shows pretty much EXACTLY what DL got (I only notice a slight striping difference, and a larger radius in the corner of the front windshield). It clearly shows the same window pattern as the previous monorails. I noticed this the first time I saw it, and the thought did cross my mind that they would be re-using the mid section, either actually, or at least in copying the design (I believe it's the former).
The concept art has been out a LONG time; I wonder why there were no dissenting comments when it was released--what--a year ago or more?
I think that someone over at Miceage, or a cast member said something about the bubble top. I'm aware of the overhead beam problem, in fact the Mk IIIs couldn't cross each other at that junction because of that top. A new design COULD use another bubble top; they'd just have to work it out dimentionally.
Since I do design work myself, I think I know about concept art and reality. Not to get "too nitpicky", but the art was pretty simplified, and not detailed. The art didn't include the triangular vents detail, and it didn't include the safety exit rails on the roof. Otherwise, folks would have picked up on how the same body was being recycled. The artist took license in flattening out the bubble, so the curvature didn't look so "bulbous", as we now see in reality. (it's awful, and disproportionate)
What dissappoints me is the thinking behind this new design. Walt wanted people to see the monorail as a potential transit system in their hometown. Now, they have treated the monorail as "just a ride" with the same weird 1998 Tomorrowland-Innoventions styling that looks very dated.
When I was a kid, I thought how cool the lettering on the side "Disneyland Monorail System"...and before that, the ALWEG logo on the side. The drivers wore hats and uniforms that looked so official. When I was part of the Monorail Society, the biggest PR problem was getting the public to think of Monorails as REAL transit possibilities, not "just for theme parks and world's fairs". I feel that this Mk VII loses ground on the idea of Monorail as a legit transit system, and it's now "just another theme park ride".
If a monorail was designed and built for Tokyo DisneySeas, it would be very "authentic" looking, not like a candy-coated jellybean. Different WDI design teams have different philosphies in approaching projects.
Just my opinion--from a fanatic perspective. I'm sure I'll enjoy it in person. Sometimes DL goofs up stuff (like that "Xmas Tree" bus/shuttle area in front of the park).
What if the steam locos were anything less than "authentic" in their presentation? What if the Ripley had color-changing paint on the cab, sand domes and tender?
I'd also be interested in knowing what Bob Gurr thinks about this new design.