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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:45 am 
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Took my family to Stone Mountain the day after Thanksgiving. Had a wonderful time, weather was perfect. We rode one of the last trains of the evening. The ride was so rough and Everytime they applied the brakes the noise was unbearable. It's sad when everyone in the car has to put their fingers in their ears. On the other hand the christmas lights were nice and the stop at the Lacy Hotel to tell the story "The gift" was enjoyable. After riding the train at Stone Mountain it makes me really appreciate our little train in Blue Ridge.

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motorcarman wrote:
The ride was so rough and Everytime they applied the brakes the noise was unbearable. It's sad when everyone in the car has to put their fingers in their ears.


When I was out there with my family in 2005, we had the same miserable experience on the train. Haven't been back since...

I don't think management "gets" how those types of experiences impact a family's choice on where they want to go. :roll:


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motorcarman wrote:
Took my family to Stone Mountain the day after Thanksgiving. Had a wonderful time, weather was perfect. We rode one of the last trains of the evening. The ride was so rough and Everytime they applied the brakes the noise was unbearable.



Those Dollywood style coaches apparently need some extra weight added. You're the third or fourth person that I have heard mention that they rode rough. As for brakes, they need to do something like the skunk train does. I rode it when I was in Cali for the TRAIN/ARM convention. The Skunk folks use water from the tender of the steam engine, or I suppose a reservoir on the diesel, to lubricate the tracks ahead of the coaches. This is done specifically to eliminate brake squeal, as the Skunk route is extremely curvy (like SMSRR).


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:34 am 
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Those Dollywood style coaches apparently need some extra weight added.


It is my understanding from a former SMSRR engineer that the coaches they are using today are old flat cars that had the benches and canopy built on top of it.

If they were indeed originally designed for freight and not passengers...no wonder they are so miserable to ride on! :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Stone Mountain RR... what a horrible shame
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:15 pm 
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kq4le wrote:

By the way, the Texas lost its fake stack because it was rotting! My friend at SMRR cut it off a few years ago. It certainly looks better without it.

I took the General's "falsie" off in the early 1990s while we filmed a section of "Fried Green Tomatos" at Stone Mountain. Its a beautiful locomotive without that hideous stack on it!

I will cherish the memories of the good times working the "General II" or "Texas II" with 4 passenger cars up the 2% grade on the backside of the mountain. I made great friends and had a great time at the SMRR. Even in the dark days we made it a fun place to work when we could.

The General II was (and is) always my favorite.
Its beautiful 6" Baldwin 3 chime whistle sits on my fireplace except the rare occasion when I run it on the steam locomotives at the Southeastern Railway Museum at Duluth,GA.

Feel free to e-mail me regarding other SMRR info. I think I can supply almost any info on the operation.


I thought the stack on the General looked nice. I think it is a nice, unique engine with a blend of old and new, without its number plate, an old style stack, light, compound cylinders, etc. Last time I went there, the General was put on a little display track in the yard and given a fresh coat of paint.
That is even less promising that it'll operate. It's too bad, since the steamers would nicely complement the Crossroads and the station :cry:

They used to have actual passenger cars that were ex-LIRR(?) ones, they kinda got hot in the summer, but they were nice. The Mountain retired them in 2001, probably for the same reason Disneyland got rit of their coaches (issues with viewing areas and boarding times). I like how they have the crossing signals, but if they could just get them working again... :roll:
Probably the only reason Dollywood's trains are surviving this other than with the savaged parts is because of Ms. Parton owns it in part!

I'm not really sure how much longer the park can last like this. Until they improve, I'm staying with Six Flags :twisted: .


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OK, I had to share this...

From time to time, I check the Stone Mountain Park website (http://www.stonemountainpark.com) in the hopes that maybe one day they will bring back steam to the park.

As you probably guessed, they aren't...but they do have the price to ride the railroad - $9.00! I couldn't believe that...they should pay ME to ride that sorry excuse for a railroad! :evil:

Here is the link if you want to check it out:
http://www.stonemountainpark.com/attractions-shows/attraction-detail.aspx?AttractionID=54


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We visited Stone Mountain this past summer and rode the railroad too. Their web site talks about the pre-recorded narration:
    "A Look Back Down The Tracks, a blend of narration about the
    chronological history of trains around Stone Mountain from the
    mid-1800s, when the rail line was first built at the mountain,
    and interesting facts about the mountain."

But, sound system was cutting in and out so badly that they shut it off about 1/2 way through the trip. Not that it would have mattered much, the brakes squealed so loudly that you couldn't hear anything else when they were applied (which was often, particularly on the downhill parts).

I can understand that eliminating brake squeal might be difficult, but when the sound system is an essential part of the ride "experience", they should either make sure it is reliable, or have a backup on-board. It's not like it requires new technology to play a pre-recorded spiel on a train, they've been doing it at DL for a few decades!


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Part of the problem is that SMRR built their open air coaches on top of flat bed railroad cars. My guess is that they were built to carry trailers and cars...NOT people.

When SMRR had actual passenger coaches, the brakes were not nearly as loud and it was a much smoother ride.


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So not only did they let their steam locomotives go to rot, but they also had passenger coaches and then got rid of them? Nice...


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They sure did...they were also vintage and can be seen on this website: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiveThumbs.aspx?id=2487&Page=2


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