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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:55 am 
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Time for the dumb question, did Harpur only build the four engines? Or do these have more cousins running around, or sitting derelict some where.


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^ That is a good question...I thought there were a few more, but I am not really sure.

Maybe Steve DeG knows... :?:


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cgf2535 wrote:
Time for the dumb question, did Harpur only build the four engines? Or do these have more cousins running around, or sitting derelict some where.

Bob Harpur was in the smaller scale live steam industry and had produced several 1-1/2" scale locomotives, both with Little Engines and later under his own label out of his Wilmington, CA, shop. Only four of the 3' lokies were constructed, under the name "Guiberson-Harpur;" two each for Six Flags Over Georgia (1966) and Astroworld (1968) long prior to Six Flags ownership. And in actuality, the latter two left California in "kit" form; the boilers, built by Superior of Kansas, were shipped directly to a Texas contractor (in Fort Worth, I believe) where they were mated to the running gear and final assembly took place for the client.

Harpur was also involved with the rebuilds of the WDWRR locomotives at Tampa, and held a lengthy WDI career involving later Disney park railroad projects, but that's another story.

Severn-Lamb of England built two more locomotives c.1992ish using Harpur patterns and drawings, which now run at Port Aventura near Barcelona. If your pockets are deep enough they still have the capabilities to build more.

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no although that is a harpur engine its not a sister to the PCRR locomotive that engine came from Huston TX here is its sister http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomo ... splay=3911


Here is a recent picture of the PCRR's sister up in Georgetown, CA
[img]http://www.trainweb.org/foothill/images/gtpvtcol8.jpg[/img]

It is currently owned by a party in the Bay area.


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And the Anglo-Spanish Quasi-Harpurs:
[img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/457078663_f222d0cd4a.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/80/281011682_ee20902c76.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/432602866_2d284d9a81.jpg[/img]

As you can see these are a bit more cosmetically "finished," kind of like what's planned for the P.C.R.R. No 1. Thus far, CMO Reader has fabricated steam chest covers and (along with henchman "Grumps") made significant mechanical improvements.

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Big Trees Flume & Lum wrote:
Here is a recent picture of the PCRR's sister up in Georgetown, CA
[img]http://www.trainweb.org/foothill/images/gtpvtcol8.jpg[/img]


Are they hoping to put the automotive bumper on the front to make a new kid of hybrid locomotive? :lol:

Those are some beautiful locomotives! I hope to get to see the P.C.RR in the next couple of years. Will the Harpur look any different by then, and will the Disney retlaw coaches be restored then?


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I hope to get to see the P.C.RR in the next couple of years. Will the Harpur look any different by then, and will the Disney retlaw coaches be restored then?

Ask time, for only he can tell! That said, the second coach left the Ranch two weeks ago and will be the first to get the full treatment (vs. the top drip rail up). It's in the hands of a very capable and talented contractor so a first class job is guaranteed. A more detailed plan for the Harpur will materialize following the coach project. I personally would go for the cap stack look (or something along the lines of CP, or NPC aesthetics), but alas, "I dunno, I just work here." Most important, though, is some mechanical TLC; she's a tired girl!

The best way to follow projects at the ranch is to stay posted to our blog at http://pcrailroad.blogspot.com. We try to post updates on at least a monthly, if not bi (or tri-)monthly basis.

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Well...this topic hasn't been touched in 10 years! Thought it might be good resurrect it... :P

Looks like they have changed the whistle out on the "General":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3P0_yJTFn4

Personally, I like it better than the shrill one they had on there before that never really worked with an air compressor vs. real steam.


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Found a great You Tube clip from the early 90's while the engines were still steam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4ctx2rd_E

Wow...I miss those days!


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That video is mine. I spent the better part of a day shooting video of the railroad. Glad to see it on Youtube. I have video of the Texas under steam also. I really do miss these grand old locomotives, under steam they were a real treat to ride behind. There were a couple of places on the line where the grade really made the little engines talk. Six Flags Over Georgia should really be ashamed of the current condition of their railroad. For a company that complains of the lack of money, they sure have it to spend on roller coasters. It is terrible what has happened to these once beautiful steamers. At least we can watch the videos and remember better days.


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